Posted on 28 Jul 2008 at 5:45 pm by bj

To: Zog The Obvious

>Because the article brought up the global warming issue which is headed up by Al Gore. If there is an issue with the globe and its warming, what about over population, etc., etc.

Zog: This is indeed a problem, one that I would be happy to see legislated. However, your “Be Fruitful and Multiply” pals over at Religion Central would be all too happy to squash any legislation to regulate breeding.

> We could go on forever. Have you given up your gasmobile?

Nope. But any trips I take, I try to get folks to go with me and contribute gas. I’m very aware of my gas usage, TY very much. How about you?

> Do you ride a bike to work?

Yep. When I don’t have to drop my daughter off at Day Care.

> Take public transporation?

Nope. I have a perfectly good bicycle. (See Above.)

> Read by candle light?

No…. SOME energy usage is okay. This is the freakin’ 21st Century, isn’t it?

> Drink milk, eat cheese? Want to see cows in the zoo?

um…. yes, yes, and no. I’m afraid you’ve lost me there. In all seriousness, could you please clarify your point?

>Every single person I know who complains of global warming are the worst violators of their own complaints and the biggest overspenders on homes, cars, and other energy sucking material toys.

‘cept for one…. :)

> Look at Mr. Gore as a great example.

Okay… he offsets his carbon use with Green methods. Research it if you like, it’s my bedtime so I’m not going digging now. But since you provided no real backup for your “example” I don’t feel too bad for copping out other than to say I’ll stack Al Gore’s energy usage against Bush’s or McCain’s any day.

> My only Master is Jesus Christ.

Good for you! I’m not a religious person myself, but I have nothing but the highest respect for those who have found and are happy with their own spiritual path. I read the Bible cover-to-cover, and didn’t find enlightenment. Rest assured, I continue to seek it, for I am convinced that we didn’t just “happen” but I’m also convinced that any Human writings on the subject are just that: “Human” writings.

> Perhaps if you believed in God and read the bible you would understand a little more about global warming. All these issues have been in the Bible for 2,000 years. Good grief. Sorry to have offended your liberal self.

As I said, I’ve read the Bible. The Old Testament is a series of moral messages that are worth living by without accepting the word-by-word account as doctrine.

The New Testament reads like Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Tum and - again, while its morality is sound (in most cases; we won’t discuss Leviticus) again, its word-by-word doctrine is questionable.

As to offending my Liberal Self… heheh. One of the things most conservatives don’t understand about Liberals is that we are willing to accept that folks have a different viewpoint from our own. I may not agree with you, but I will fight to the death for your right to say what you believe in… as long as I can voice my opinions as well.

Our country’s biggest problem is its unwillingness to embrace the idea that everyone has a different viewpoint. I’m sorry to say that Conservatives have a far greater problem with this ideal than LLiberals do. Once we accept the idea that we are all different yet can find a way to meet in the middle, our anger at each other will subside.

But I don’t know if we are mature enough as a species. This little fact by itslef is why I’m seriously considering ditching my Liberal websites and going back to burying my head in the sand like my peers.

*Shrug*

Thank you for your continuing efforts. A discussion of what we can do about it?

Make what money passes thru your hands reflect your values.
Loath a “compliant media”? Channel your money elsewhere. Drop the cable TV, cancel the magazines and sell the TV.

Wise up about who your credit card usage supports. My gas card is issued by J.P. Morgan Chase, a founding stockholder in the Federal Reserve private central bank and definitely part of our problems. Dump ‘em and find yourself a local credit union to issue your credit card.

Shop locally. That Mom & Pop store on the corner takes the money from your sale and puts it in the local bank and remains in your community. Buy from the corporate franchise superette and it is likely to send your dollars out of state instead.

If you are fortunate enough to give to charity, instead of funding the same solicitations you always do, look around you first. I discovered a church food shelf less than 3 blocks away.

Talk to you neighbors.

Then realize that in the U.S. economy only 1% of money is actually cash. That leaves the other 99% which is based on created credit from banks and items that have a degree of “moneyness” to them like certificates of deposit, Treasury bonds, credit default swaps and over $500 trillion of derivative contracts.

I talk about an effort by an organization that served 20,000 people with concrete help and am then denounced for not being “constructive.” I am told to be positive as the country slips into recession and perhaps worse…OMG. Comment by all means but at least comment on what I am writing, not what are so eager to ventilate about

Hocus Focus

“Call it the modern form of trickle-down economy. A growing -albeit still small- part of the population may be clueing in to what is happening on Wall Street, but that remains a conveniently distant world.

But now it’s getting real. And a lot closer. Now the consequences of trillions of dollars in vanished housing “values”, $480 billion in writedowns for the big banks, as well as mind-boggingly large amounts of taxpayer-funded “rescue” missions to save them, are starting to trickle down and sink in.

People are beginning to find that their pension funds were among the heaviest investors in the securities and derivatives that necessitate the write-downs and rescues. The average losses on the paper are huge, and their value will soon approach zero.

Yesterday, the National Australia Bank stated it will write down 90% of the “value” of its US housing-related paper. If pension funds in the US and around the globe would follow the NAB’s example, trillions of dollars in assumed value would vanish overnight. Still, whether they recognize it publicly or not, the paper is worthless, and there’s no realistic prospect for it to regain -any of- its value.

So there goes your pension.”

You’re hysterical, and, worse– out of focus!!
Try saying something new — and constructive

I apologize for having to waste everyone’s time by having to deal with these schmoes.

Thank you once again Danny for an informative story.

Because the article brought up the global warming issue which is headed up by Al Gore. If there is an issue with the globe and its warming, what about over population, etc., etc. We could go on forever. Have you given up your gasmobile? Do you ride a bike to work? Take public transporation? Read by candle light? Drink milk, eat cheese? Want to see cows in the zoo? Every single person I know who complains of global warming are the worst violators of their own complaints and the biggest overspenders on homes, cars, and other energy sucking material toys. Look at Mr. Gore as a great example. My only Master is Jesus Christ. Perhaps if you believed in God and read the bible you would understand a little more about global warming. All these issues have been in the Bible for 2,000 years. Good grief. Sorry to have offended your liberal self.