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	<title>Comments on: Senate OKs Bill To Extend Eavesdropping</title>
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		<title>by: Robert M. Cerello</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2008/02/13/senate-oks-bill-to-extend-eavesdropping/#comment-11254</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>What terrifying utter nonsense and treason!
We are not at war, since our nations' authorities do not stand for reality-- that which pseudo-theocratic postmodernist Republicans do not recognize and have replaced with "whatever public interest secret agenda universe they secretly try to sell by using Kantian lies and falsified date and fake arguments". I we throw reality away along with individual rights and warrantable cause requirements restraining such governors, we then have no difference from our Near Eastern tyrants
enemies  over which to quarrel. This latest Act would then be an argument with fellow totalitarian 'tsars' wherein we would differ only in degree.  Is the concept of "reasoning selfhood" now so far beyond theminds of our so-called leaders that these unscientific running dogs of crypto-fascism cannot even conceive of a legal means of surveillance that  defines the actions of its responsible practitioners as something other a terrifing threat that requires them to declare themselves as DAs and every citizen an enemy of their fantasy state? No such emergency as they are preyending is rout there exists or has ever existed; certainly not in an opposition between a technologically-advanced state and flea-bittern sand squatting pseudo-theocrats using WWII weapons  of mass murder against unarmed civilians as well as our military?  The communications coporations' CEOs knew exactly what they were doing when they spied on citizen selves.  They were violating the laws of the US, which Congress passes and the Surpreme Court tests.  They have stolen billions for over a century and give miserable performance in return.  They can afford to be punished for their crimes; we cannot afford not to strike down their wrongdoing. We cannot let their crimes go unpunished, since we have no rights any longer, even without this hideous and insane bill' additional harms.
I demand my rights. My life is not  lived at the permissions of public-interest 'tsars" of life. My liberty, if I regain it, will not depend on permission from collectivistic god-players.  And my pursuit of goals of prioritized potential 'happiness' must not be filtered through the gatekpeeer tyrants of bureau, government-licensed corporation nor paranoid surveillance agencies' additional gangsters.
To adopt such an act would obviously require three things not in evidence: 1. a clear logical proof of the scientific rightness of such a procedure as a result-getting method. 2. the existence of a real not spurious wartime emregency condition, one which would pit us against an advanced, technologically-sophsticated and mentally-active opponent; 3. the provision of regulatory steps by means of which  citizens acting upon their soveriegn rights could go about their basic capitalist business of investing their own  life- positive energy, time, ability and money while governmentally-employed servitors safeguarded them from threats foreign and domestic. 
Under this 
unAmerican bill, no such provisions could be maintained.  I oppose it for many reasons; I will assert four here.  It is unConstitutional and it won't work; it  institutionalizes a criminal executive brainch, and it further fosters collusion with destroyers of individual rights into a permanent imperial-presidential tyranny as a form of government. I solemny warn the people and governors of the United States--unless this insane bill is defeated, nothing can ever undo the damage its adherents will do.  We lost our individual-rights based Constitution in 1902.  The institutional framework of American rights-based law was finally destroyed in the reininvented Constitutional changes of 1994. Adding this step to those priro crimes--already committed against individuals' lberties--will set in motion catastrophic forces, whose declared enemy is the libertarian responsible self, and whose end is broadened powers of tyranny, not merely broad fact gathereing that will feed incompetent analysts fodder for more of their shocking  failures to deal with the real, assess with objectivity and act with efficacy.  They have done none of these things in the years since 09/11. Why would giveing these utterly incompetent un-Americans powers no tsar of the Russias ever dreamed of having make their bumbling power-seeking criminality any more successful than it already hasn't been--when they lacked such immoral and unethical powers before?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What terrifying utter nonsense and treason!<br />
We are not at war, since our nations&#8217; authorities do not stand for reality&#8211; that which pseudo-theocratic postmodernist Republicans do not recognize and have replaced with &#8220;whatever public interest secret agenda universe they secretly try to sell by using Kantian lies and falsified date and fake arguments&#8221;. I we throw reality away along with individual rights and warrantable cause requirements restraining such governors, we then have no difference from our Near Eastern tyrants<br />
enemies  over which to quarrel. This latest Act would then be an argument with fellow totalitarian &#8216;tsars&#8217; wherein we would differ only in degree.  Is the concept of &#8220;reasoning selfhood&#8221; now so far beyond theminds of our so-called leaders that these unscientific running dogs of crypto-fascism cannot even conceive of a legal means of surveillance that  defines the actions of its responsible practitioners as something other a terrifing threat that requires them to declare themselves as DAs and every citizen an enemy of their fantasy state? No such emergency as they are preyending is rout there exists or has ever existed; certainly not in an opposition between a technologically-advanced state and flea-bittern sand squatting pseudo-theocrats using WWII weapons  of mass murder against unarmed civilians as well as our military?  The communications coporations&#8217; CEOs knew exactly what they were doing when they spied on citizen selves.  They were violating the laws of the US, which Congress passes and the Surpreme Court tests.  They have stolen billions for over a century and give miserable performance in return.  They can afford to be punished for their crimes; we cannot afford not to strike down their wrongdoing. We cannot let their crimes go unpunished, since we have no rights any longer, even without this hideous and insane bill&#8217; additional harms.<br />
I demand my rights. My life is not  lived at the permissions of public-interest &#8216;tsars&#8221; of life. My liberty, if I regain it, will not depend on permission from collectivistic god-players.  And my pursuit of goals of prioritized potential &#8216;happiness&#8217; must not be filtered through the gatekpeeer tyrants of bureau, government-licensed corporation nor paranoid surveillance agencies&#8217; additional gangsters.<br />
To adopt such an act would obviously require three things not in evidence: 1. a clear logical proof of the scientific rightness of such a procedure as a result-getting method. 2. the existence of a real not spurious wartime emregency condition, one which would pit us against an advanced, technologically-sophsticated and mentally-active opponent; 3. the provision of regulatory steps by means of which  citizens acting upon their soveriegn rights could go about their basic capitalist business of investing their own  life- positive energy, time, ability and money while governmentally-employed servitors safeguarded them from threats foreign and domestic.<br />
Under this<br />
unAmerican bill, no such provisions could be maintained.  I oppose it for many reasons; I will assert four here.  It is unConstitutional and it won&#8217;t work; it  institutionalizes a criminal executive brainch, and it further fosters collusion with destroyers of individual rights into a permanent imperial-presidential tyranny as a form of government. I solemny warn the people and governors of the United States&#8211;unless this insane bill is defeated, nothing can ever undo the damage its adherents will do.  We lost our individual-rights based Constitution in 1902.  The institutional framework of American rights-based law was finally destroyed in the reininvented Constitutional changes of 1994. Adding this step to those priro crimes&#8211;already committed against individuals&#8217; lberties&#8211;will set in motion catastrophic forces, whose declared enemy is the libertarian responsible self, and whose end is broadened powers of tyranny, not merely broad fact gathereing that will feed incompetent analysts fodder for more of their shocking  failures to deal with the real, assess with objectivity and act with efficacy.  They have done none of these things in the years since 09/11. Why would giveing these utterly incompetent un-Americans powers no tsar of the Russias ever dreamed of having make their bumbling power-seeking criminality any more successful than it already hasn&#8217;t been&#8211;when they lacked such immoral and unethical powers before?
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		<title>by: Dianne</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2008/02/13/senate-oks-bill-to-extend-eavesdropping/#comment-11234</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>What kind of people are representing us in the Senate?  Have they all been bought and paid for by corporate America?  I don't support Sen Clinton candidacy because she is part of the corporatocracy -- fascism.  Who do you think she will represent in the White House?  Not me.  Not you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of people are representing us in the Senate?  Have they all been bought and paid for by corporate America?  I don&#8217;t support Sen Clinton candidacy because she is part of the corporatocracy &#8212; fascism.  Who do you think she will represent in the White House?  Not me.  Not you.
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		<title>by: Burt Cohen</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2008/02/13/senate-oks-bill-to-extend-eavesdropping/#comment-11224</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How did Senator Clinton vote?</description>
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		<title>by: Mark Schleupner</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2008/02/13/senate-oks-bill-to-extend-eavesdropping/#comment-11221</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Obama did vote on this bill and he voted against it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama did vote on this bill and he voted against it.
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