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		<title>by: Charles Liu</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2008/01/23/montreal-newspaper-a-voice-for-chinese-regime/#comment-14755</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>honorable mention of FLG disciple Helen Li:

www.cbc.ca/news/background/china/falun_gong.html

www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2008/3/13/95305.html

So much for your claim of Truth...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>honorable mention of FLG disciple Helen Li:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/china/falun_gong.html" rel="nofollow">www.cbc.ca/news/background/china/falun_gong.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2008/3/13/95305.html" rel="nofollow">www.clearwisdom.net/emh/articles/2008/3/13/95305.html</a></p>
<p>So much for your claim of Truth&#8230;
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		<title>by: Helen Li</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2008/01/23/montreal-newspaper-a-voice-for-chinese-regime/#comment-10598</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Helen is not a Falun Gong practitioner.
But Helen is observing Charles Liu's wired behavior on the internet for two years, and there can be no explanation other than Charlie Liu is working for the Chinese government  - the Western Standard article is a good source of information for us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen is not a Falun Gong practitioner.<br />
But Helen is observing Charles Liu&#8217;s wired behavior on the internet for two years, and there can be no explanation other than Charlie Liu is working for the Chinese government  - the Western Standard article is a good source of information for us all.
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		<title>by: Charles Liu</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2008/01/23/montreal-newspaper-a-voice-for-chinese-regime/#comment-10460</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I deny the "Chinese spy" allegation Epoch Times reporter Jana Shearer made in this article. It seems Jana and her Falun Gong cohorts have been attacking other bloggers as well, attempt to silence its critics:

http://falungongpolitics.blogspot.com/2007/04/epoch-times-reporters-gone-wild.html

Notice Falun Gong practioner Helen Lai have to add a question mark "?"

Where's your Truth Helen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I deny the &#8220;Chinese spy&#8221; allegation Epoch Times reporter Jana Shearer made in this article. It seems Jana and her Falun Gong cohorts have been attacking other bloggers as well, attempt to silence its critics:</p>
<p><a href="http://falungongpolitics.blogspot.com/2007/04/epoch-times-reporters-gone-wild.html" rel="nofollow">http://falungongpolitics.blogspot.com/2007/04/epoch-times-reporters-gone-wild.html</a></p>
<p>Notice Falun Gong practioner Helen Lai have to add a question mark &#8220;?&#8221;</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s your Truth Helen?
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		<title>by: Helen Lai</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2008/01/23/montreal-newspaper-a-voice-for-chinese-regime/#comment-10289</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Is Charlie Liu an on-line version of Crescent Chau working for the regime? See article in the following:


http://organharvestinvestigation.net/media/WesternStandard_040907.htm
Sowing Confusion; Embarrassed by reports of live organ harvesting, China's sympathizers launch a high-tech disinformation campaign

April 9, 2007 Monday
Final Edition
Kevin Steel, Western Standard, Alberta

He posts his messages everywhere under several different names on Internet blogs and discussion groups. He writes letters to the editor anywhere and sends e-mails to anyone--anyone who might take seriously shocking evidence that the Chinese government "harvests" and sells live organs from political prisoners. His main message is that the Falun Gong--the group which first brought evidence of live organ harvesting to light--and the Epoch Times newspaper that broke that story are spreading propaganda against China's Communist government. And he's not even Chinese. He is Charles Liu, a 40-year-old Taiwanese-born technology consultant who lives in Issaquah, Wash., and does business in China.

Liu has been so active and so pro-Beijing in his writings that some Falun Gong supporters--in particular Epoch Times reporter Jana Shearer--have accused him of being an agent for the Chinese government, waging a disinformation campaign against them, trying to confuse people, and deliberately wasting everyone's time.

It's a charge that upsets Liu, who dismisses it as "a bunch of kooky friends making unfounded accusations. It's just a bunch of blog BS." As for why he devotes so much energy to attacking the Falun Gong and the organ harvesting allegations, he says, "My position is that I simply don't agree with their brand of politics, because I observed their politics turning from anti-Communist party, to anti-China, . . . and recently it's morphed into this anti-Chinese hysteria and that's going to be hurting people," he says. As an Asian-American, he says he decided to speak up.

He doesn't really explain, when asked, why he started a blog last year called "The Myth of Tiananmen Square Massacre" under the name of Bobby Fletcher (one of his online aliases, which he also uses to comment on the Western Standard's online blog). On that blog, he pushes the minimal 250 casualty figure that the Chinese government has always maintained died that night in 1989 (more reliable estimates put the figure at at least ten times that).

Liu's actions mirror disinformation campaigns waged by the Chinese government in the past. Typically, these include the deliberate spreading of false or misleading facts to sow confusion or doubt among the conflicting accounts. The classic example is the Tiananmen Square massacre; the Chinese government has maintained that no one died in the square itself, that there was only pushing and shoving on the streets around the square, resulting in a few military casualties. Overseas, the CCP relies on its United Front Work department, part of the Chinese intelligence service, to propagate its message. During the Cold War, the Soviets employed many overseas flunkies through their Disinformation Department.

Former Canadian MP David Kilgour, who co-authored a report on China's macabre organ harvesting industry, has received many propaganda e-mails from Liu. For instance, Liu has written repeatedly that a U.S. congressional committee looked into the organ harvesting allegations and found nothing. "[David] Matas and I gave evidence to that subcommittee and got support from both the Republican chairman and the Democratic vice-chair," says Kilgour. "I just came to the conclusion he was trying to waste my time, and I have other things to do."

Winnipeg-based human rights lawyer, and Kilgour's co-author, David Matas, really doesn't know what to make of Liu. "I don't know who he is, but what he does is spend a lot of time replicating nonsense to defend the Chinese government," Matas says.

The only concern Matas has is that Liu seems to know who he and Kilgour met with in the United States to discuss their report. Matas discovered Liu had sent e-mails to politicians--and their staff--prior to the meetings. "The only people who would have that information would potentially be the Chinese government. I can't imagine how Liu would know we were meeting with those people," Matas says. "We're not super-secretive, but you can't find information on the Internet or in any public place about who we're meeting with, where and when." He himself has received at least 10 e-mails from Liu, all of which he's ignored. Maybe Matas is onto something with that approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Charlie Liu an on-line version of Crescent Chau working for the regime? See article in the following:</p>
<p><a href="http://organharvestinvestigation.net/media/WesternStandard_040907.htm" rel="nofollow">http://organharvestinvestigation.net/media/WesternStandard_040907.htm</a><br />
Sowing Confusion; Embarrassed by reports of live organ harvesting, China&#8217;s sympathizers launch a high-tech disinformation campaign</p>
<p>April 9, 2007 Monday<br />
Final Edition<br />
Kevin Steel, Western Standard, Alberta</p>
<p>He posts his messages everywhere under several different names on Internet blogs and discussion groups. He writes letters to the editor anywhere and sends e-mails to anyone&#8211;anyone who might take seriously shocking evidence that the Chinese government &#8220;harvests&#8221; and sells live organs from political prisoners. His main message is that the Falun Gong&#8211;the group which first brought evidence of live organ harvesting to light&#8211;and the Epoch Times newspaper that broke that story are spreading propaganda against China&#8217;s Communist government. And he&#8217;s not even Chinese. He is Charles Liu, a 40-year-old Taiwanese-born technology consultant who lives in Issaquah, Wash., and does business in China.</p>
<p>Liu has been so active and so pro-Beijing in his writings that some Falun Gong supporters&#8211;in particular Epoch Times reporter Jana Shearer&#8211;have accused him of being an agent for the Chinese government, waging a disinformation campaign against them, trying to confuse people, and deliberately wasting everyone&#8217;s time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a charge that upsets Liu, who dismisses it as &#8220;a bunch of kooky friends making unfounded accusations. It&#8217;s just a bunch of blog BS.&#8221; As for why he devotes so much energy to attacking the Falun Gong and the organ harvesting allegations, he says, &#8220;My position is that I simply don&#8217;t agree with their brand of politics, because I observed their politics turning from anti-Communist party, to anti-China, . . . and recently it&#8217;s morphed into this anti-Chinese hysteria and that&#8217;s going to be hurting people,&#8221; he says. As an Asian-American, he says he decided to speak up.</p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t really explain, when asked, why he started a blog last year called &#8220;The Myth of Tiananmen Square Massacre&#8221; under the name of Bobby Fletcher (one of his online aliases, which he also uses to comment on the Western Standard&#8217;s online blog). On that blog, he pushes the minimal 250 casualty figure that the Chinese government has always maintained died that night in 1989 (more reliable estimates put the figure at at least ten times that).</p>
<p>Liu&#8217;s actions mirror disinformation campaigns waged by the Chinese government in the past. Typically, these include the deliberate spreading of false or misleading facts to sow confusion or doubt among the conflicting accounts. The classic example is the Tiananmen Square massacre; the Chinese government has maintained that no one died in the square itself, that there was only pushing and shoving on the streets around the square, resulting in a few military casualties. Overseas, the CCP relies on its United Front Work department, part of the Chinese intelligence service, to propagate its message. During the Cold War, the Soviets employed many overseas flunkies through their Disinformation Department.</p>
<p>Former Canadian MP David Kilgour, who co-authored a report on China&#8217;s macabre organ harvesting industry, has received many propaganda e-mails from Liu. For instance, Liu has written repeatedly that a U.S. congressional committee looked into the organ harvesting allegations and found nothing. &#8220;[David] Matas and I gave evidence to that subcommittee and got support from both the Republican chairman and the Democratic vice-chair,&#8221; says Kilgour. &#8220;I just came to the conclusion he was trying to waste my time, and I have other things to do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Winnipeg-based human rights lawyer, and Kilgour&#8217;s co-author, David Matas, really doesn&#8217;t know what to make of Liu. &#8220;I don&#8217;t know who he is, but what he does is spend a lot of time replicating nonsense to defend the Chinese government,&#8221; Matas says.</p>
<p>The only concern Matas has is that Liu seems to know who he and Kilgour met with in the United States to discuss their report. Matas discovered Liu had sent e-mails to politicians&#8211;and their staff&#8211;prior to the meetings. &#8220;The only people who would have that information would potentially be the Chinese government. I can&#8217;t imagine how Liu would know we were meeting with those people,&#8221; Matas says. &#8220;We&#8217;re not super-secretive, but you can&#8217;t find information on the Internet or in any public place about who we&#8217;re meeting with, where and when.&#8221; He himself has received at least 10 e-mails from Liu, all of which he&#8217;s ignored. Maybe Matas is onto something with that approach.
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		<title>by: Charles Liu</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2008/01/23/montreal-newspaper-a-voice-for-chinese-regime/#comment-10256</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Here are the facts of the case:

- La Presse won the court case. Here's what Quebec Superior Court justice Jeannine Rousseau wrote in her ruling against Falun Gong:

"[39] Amongst the characteristics of Master Li's teachings are the rejection of science as being misleading and dangerous, the promise of supernatural powers, amongst which a rotating wheel in the stomach of practitioners to purify them, constant health, rejuvenation, and the ability to see into other spatial dimensions.

[40] It is a controversial movement, which does not accept criticism."

- Falun Gong's organ harvesting allegation has been discredited by undercover investigation conducted by US State Dept as well as Chinese dissident Harry Wu.

- Epoch Times receives funding from Falun Gong. Just check GuideStar.org for non-profit declarations of various Falun Dafa Associations, and the money trail will be obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the facts of the case:</p>
<p>- La Presse won the court case. Here&#8217;s what Quebec Superior Court justice Jeannine Rousseau wrote in her ruling against Falun Gong:</p>
<p>&#8220;[39] Amongst the characteristics of Master Li&#8217;s teachings are the rejection of science as being misleading and dangerous, the promise of supernatural powers, amongst which a rotating wheel in the stomach of practitioners to purify them, constant health, rejuvenation, and the ability to see into other spatial dimensions.</p>
<p>[40] It is a controversial movement, which does not accept criticism.&#8221;</p>
<p>- Falun Gong&#8217;s organ harvesting allegation has been discredited by undercover investigation conducted by US State Dept as well as Chinese dissident Harry Wu.</p>
<p>- Epoch Times receives funding from Falun Gong. Just check GuideStar.org for non-profit declarations of various Falun Dafa Associations, and the money trail will be obvious.
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		<title>by: Noah</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2008/01/23/montreal-newspaper-a-voice-for-chinese-regime/#comment-10190</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks for the truth.  I can't fathom how some public officials are willing to sell moral principles for trade relations.  If it was their family or their child being persecuted, it would be different for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the truth.  I can&#8217;t fathom how some public officials are willing to sell moral principles for trade relations.  If it was their family or their child being persecuted, it would be different for sure.
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