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		<title>by: Dominick J.</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2007/07/02/sicko-heavily-doctored/#comment-2977</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sorry Charles, I ment to say you in my post.  So I'll say it again.  Great Post CHarles.</description>
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		<title>by: Dominick J.</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2007/07/02/sicko-heavily-doctored/#comment-2976</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"blithe assertions (how does he know 18,000* people will die this year because they have no health insurance?)"

Well I would take a good guess and say he got that 18,000 from the 47 Million the author of this article got and then I would even say it was a LOW estimate of people who will die because of No insurance or Not enough insurance.
Come on Michael did a great job on this documentary Movie. 
By the way GREAT post Michael.</description>
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<p>Well I would take a good guess and say he got that 18,000 from the 47 Million the author of this article got and then I would even say it was a LOW estimate of people who will die because of No insurance or Not enough insurance.<br />
Come on Michael did a great job on this documentary Movie.<br />
By the way GREAT post Michael.
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		<title>by: Mimi</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2007/07/02/sicko-heavily-doctored/#comment-2956</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Some how some way the military hospitals (on base) are run without problem.  Some how some way our medicaid and medicare programs are run without problems (besides the difficulty in recieving the benefits).  Why is it so wrong for our nation to have a national healthcare?  I'm 42 years old, and I started a family at 20, therefore I didn't get an education and I am struggling to get that education and work now.  I don't have health insurance.  I just don't go to the doctor, I can't afford it.  I've allowed a young man, 21, to move in with me because he has a choice between living in his truck and recieving the meds he needs for his seizure disorder or having a home.  I have another coworker who has diabetes and is having to work 2 jobs in order to survive at 56 years old.  Another coworker is a retired teacher, enough is enough, healthcare isn't a luxury, its a neccessity and it needs to be available to EVERYONE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some how some way the military hospitals (on base) are run without problem.  Some how some way our medicaid and medicare programs are run without problems (besides the difficulty in recieving the benefits).  Why is it so wrong for our nation to have a national healthcare?  I&#8217;m 42 years old, and I started a family at 20, therefore I didn&#8217;t get an education and I am struggling to get that education and work now.  I don&#8217;t have health insurance.  I just don&#8217;t go to the doctor, I can&#8217;t afford it.  I&#8217;ve allowed a young man, 21, to move in with me because he has a choice between living in his truck and recieving the meds he needs for his seizure disorder or having a home.  I have another coworker who has diabetes and is having to work 2 jobs in order to survive at 56 years old.  Another coworker is a retired teacher, enough is enough, healthcare isn&#8217;t a luxury, its a neccessity and it needs to be available to EVERYONE.
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		<title>by: CHARLES</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2007/07/02/sicko-heavily-doctored/#comment-2930</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This was an EXCELLENT film depicting the reason why DEMOCRACY and it WICKED COUSIN CAPITALISM should never be spread any further than the mind of the LUNATIC that conceived it. I see and hear everyone from  news reporters to health care execs trying to TRASH this documentary because of it revealing nature. Of course Mr. Moore could never speak of every healthcare case ina merica or the world, but the overall general consesus on american healthcare is it is OVERBURDENED with GREED and PROFIT MAKING. The execs at the top of these HMOs CLEAN UP BIG TIME. I hand the  (mis)fortune of working in the health insurance industry for some years and believe me...the viewing public does not have a clue what the hell really goes on in that business. If they ever found out the masses would erect guillatines and thoroughly execute every exec in these GOD forsaken HMOs and then capture every congressman who is no more then a bought and paid for whore to allow such contemptuous "care" to be administered to the "insured" public.

By The Way... there is WAYYYYYYY more than 40 plus million uninsured in america. More than 50 percent of america lives in poverty...this population can utilize MEDICAID should they need it...so technically they ARE INSURED. The 40 plus million are MIDDLE CLASS people who are working without insurance or without enough insurance. And this mind you is in a nation so arrogant that it insists it is the RICHEST nation on the planet...Ha Ha Ha Ha... Is this wealth it claims to have take into consideration the 3 BILLION per day it gets from CHINA to remain financially afloat??? Don't make me laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was an EXCELLENT film depicting the reason why DEMOCRACY and it WICKED COUSIN CAPITALISM should never be spread any further than the mind of the LUNATIC that conceived it. I see and hear everyone from  news reporters to health care execs trying to TRASH this documentary because of it revealing nature. Of course Mr. Moore could never speak of every healthcare case ina merica or the world, but the overall general consesus on american healthcare is it is OVERBURDENED with GREED and PROFIT MAKING. The execs at the top of these HMOs CLEAN UP BIG TIME. I hand the  (mis)fortune of working in the health insurance industry for some years and believe me&#8230;the viewing public does not have a clue what the hell really goes on in that business. If they ever found out the masses would erect guillatines and thoroughly execute every exec in these GOD forsaken HMOs and then capture every congressman who is no more then a bought and paid for whore to allow such contemptuous &#8220;care&#8221; to be administered to the &#8220;insured&#8221; public.</p>
<p>By The Way&#8230; there is WAYYYYYYY more than 40 plus million uninsured in america. More than 50 percent of america lives in poverty&#8230;this population can utilize MEDICAID should they need it&#8230;so technically they ARE INSURED. The 40 plus million are MIDDLE CLASS people who are working without insurance or without enough insurance. And this mind you is in a nation so arrogant that it insists it is the RICHEST nation on the planet&#8230;Ha Ha Ha Ha&#8230; Is this wealth it claims to have take into consideration the 3 BILLION per day it gets from CHINA to remain financially afloat??? Don&#8217;t make me laugh.
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		<title>by: Heidi Monson</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2007/07/02/sicko-heavily-doctored/#comment-2923</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>What's missing from Michael Moore's movie and from this article is that the healthcare system itself is utterly corrupt, and it's the primary reason for the outrageous costs.

The insurance companies are corrupt.  We all know that.  But they are only a small part of the health problem in the western world.  Pharmaceutical firms, chemical firms, hospitals, medical appliance manufacturers - all of these, and the doctors themselves, have convinced us of their efficacy and made unto themselves a holy grail.  Thou shalt not question whether what they're doing is really effective.  Thou shalt not question their methods.  Thou shalt not ask of them that they keep track of the results of their procedures.  

Even in countries like Canada and the UK, the reality is that the corporate world controls the system.  It presents pseudo-science as documentation.  It uses humans as guinea pigs - and then hides the bad results.  The power of this system is stealing people's control over their own bodies, preventing them from trying alternative methods of treatment.

This is the real problem.  Remove the profit motive from every aspect of the system, and there will be no concerns about rationing of healthcare.  The very assumption that the healthcare system itself is so good that it's beyond inspection is the real issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s missing from Michael Moore&#8217;s movie and from this article is that the healthcare system itself is utterly corrupt, and it&#8217;s the primary reason for the outrageous costs.</p>
<p>The insurance companies are corrupt.  We all know that.  But they are only a small part of the health problem in the western world.  Pharmaceutical firms, chemical firms, hospitals, medical appliance manufacturers - all of these, and the doctors themselves, have convinced us of their efficacy and made unto themselves a holy grail.  Thou shalt not question whether what they&#8217;re doing is really effective.  Thou shalt not question their methods.  Thou shalt not ask of them that they keep track of the results of their procedures.  </p>
<p>Even in countries like Canada and the UK, the reality is that the corporate world controls the system.  It presents pseudo-science as documentation.  It uses humans as guinea pigs - and then hides the bad results.  The power of this system is stealing people&#8217;s control over their own bodies, preventing them from trying alternative methods of treatment.</p>
<p>This is the real problem.  Remove the profit motive from every aspect of the system, and there will be no concerns about rationing of healthcare.  The very assumption that the healthcare system itself is so good that it&#8217;s beyond inspection is the real issue.
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		<title>by: james</title>
		<link>http://www.mediachannel.org/wordpress/2007/07/02/sicko-heavily-doctored/#comment-2922</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Print This Article &#124; EMail This Article 

Date Published: 2006-09-06 

You’ve got to be lucky to make $4 Billion killing on a 6-month investment 
of $124 Million

Larry Silverstein is the New York property tycoon who purchased the entire 
WTC complex just 6 months prior to the 9/11 attacks. That was the first 
time in its 33-year history the complex had EVER changed ownership. 

Mr. Silverstein’s first order of business as the new owner was to change 
the company responsible for the security of the complex. The new security 
company he hired was Securacom (now Stratasec). George W. Bush's brother, 
Marvin Bush, was on its board of directors, and Marvin’s cousin, Wirt 
Walker III, was its CEO. According to public records, not only did 
Securacom provide electronic security for the World Trade Center, it also 
covered Dulles International Airport and United Airlines — two key players 
in the 9/11 attacks. 

The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp., 
also linked for many years to the Bush family. KuwAm has been linked to 
the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and 
a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served 
on the board of Stratesec. 

Now, consider: The members of a small cabal owned the WTC complex, 
controlled its electronic security, and also controlled the security not 
only for one of the airlines whose aircraft were hijacked on 9/11, but the 
airport from which they originated. 

Another little “coincidence” -- Mr. Silversten, who made a down-payment of 
$124 million on this $3.2 billion complex, promptly insured it for $7 
Billion. Not only that, he covered the complex against “terrorist attacks”.

Following the attacks, Silverstein filed TWO insurance claims for the 
maximum amount of the policy ($7B), based on the two -- in Silverstein's 
view -- separate attacks. The insurance company, Swiss Re, paid Mr. 
Silverstein $4.6 Billion — a princely return on a relatively paltry 
investment of $124 million.

There’s more. You see, the World Trade Towers were not the real estate 
plum we are led to believe. From an economic standpoint, the trade center 
-- subsidized since its inception by the NY Port Authority -- has never 
functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the 
rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. How could Silverstein Group have 
been ignorant of this?

The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements, 
most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials 
declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built. It 
was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos 
bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an 
aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish 
the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due the known 
asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building 
was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble 
the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited 
legally from demolishing the buildings.

The projected cost to disassemble the towers: $15 Billion. Just the 
scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!

In other words, the Twin Towers were condemned structures. How convenient 
that an unexpected “terrorist” attack demolished the buildings completely. 

WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same 
insurance policy. This 47-storey steel-framed structure, which was NOT 
struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day 
into its own footprint at freefall speed — exactly in the manner of the 
Twin Towers.

How could this have happened? Mr. Silverstein gave the world the answer 
when he slipped up during a PBS television interview a year later, on 
9/11/2002:

"I remember getting a call from the...er...fire department commander, 
telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the 
fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the 
smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and 
we watched the building collapse."

As anyone who knows anything about construction can tell you, “Pull” is 
common industry jargon for a controlled demolition.

One thing is for sure, the decision to 'pull' WTC 7 would have delighted 
many people. Especially because it has been reported that thousands of 
sensitive files relating to some of the biggest financial scams in history 
— including Enron and WorldCom -- were stored in the offices of some of 
the building’s tenants:


US Secret Service 
NSA 
CIA 
IRS 
BATF 
SEC 
NAIC Securities 
Salomon Smith Barney 
American Express Bank International 
Standard Chartered Bank 
Provident Financial Management 
ITT Hartford Insurance Group 
Federal Home Loan Bank


The Securities and Exchange Commission has not quantified the number of 
active cases in which substantial files were destroyed by the collapse of 
WTC 7. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports 
estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency's major inquiry 
into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial 
public offerings during the high-tech boom. ..."Ongoing investigations at 
the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their 
work is paper-intensive," said Max Berger of New York's Bernstein Litowitz 
Berger &#38; Grossmann. "This is a disaster for these cases."

Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about 
WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade 
Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center. The bank says that 
back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 
2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack. 

Inside WTC 7 was the US Secret Service's largest field office with more 
than 200 employees. "All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in 
all our cases, went down with the building," according to US Secret 
Service Special Agent David Curran.

What a neat, complete, and fortuitous turn of events was 9/11. 

Incidentally, it’s worth noting that one of Lucky Larry’s closest friends 
— a person with whom it’s said he speaks almost daily by phone — is none 
other than former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Print This Article | EMail This Article </p>
<p>Date Published: 2006-09-06 </p>
<p>You’ve got to be lucky to make $4 Billion killing on a 6-month investment<br />
of $124 Million</p>
<p>Larry Silverstein is the New York property tycoon who purchased the entire<br />
WTC complex just 6 months prior to the 9/11 attacks. That was the first<br />
time in its 33-year history the complex had EVER changed ownership. </p>
<p>Mr. Silverstein’s first order of business as the new owner was to change<br />
the company responsible for the security of the complex. The new security<br />
company he hired was Securacom (now Stratasec). George W. Bush&#8217;s brother,<br />
Marvin Bush, was on its board of directors, and Marvin’s cousin, Wirt<br />
Walker III, was its CEO. According to public records, not only did<br />
Securacom provide electronic security for the World Trade Center, it also<br />
covered Dulles International Airport and United Airlines — two key players<br />
in the 9/11 attacks. </p>
<p>The company was backed by an investment firm, the Kuwait-American Corp.,<br />
also linked for many years to the Bush family. KuwAm has been linked to<br />
the Bush family financially since the Gulf War. One of its principals and<br />
a member of the Kuwaiti royal family, Mishal Yousef Saud al Sabah, served<br />
on the board of Stratesec. </p>
<p>Now, consider: The members of a small cabal owned the WTC complex,<br />
controlled its electronic security, and also controlled the security not<br />
only for one of the airlines whose aircraft were hijacked on 9/11, but the<br />
airport from which they originated. </p>
<p>Another little “coincidence” &#8212; Mr. Silversten, who made a down-payment of<br />
$124 million on this $3.2 billion complex, promptly insured it for $7<br />
Billion. Not only that, he covered the complex against “terrorist attacks”.</p>
<p>Following the attacks, Silverstein filed TWO insurance claims for the<br />
maximum amount of the policy ($7B), based on the two &#8212; in Silverstein&#8217;s<br />
view &#8212; separate attacks. The insurance company, Swiss Re, paid Mr.<br />
Silverstein $4.6 Billion — a princely return on a relatively paltry<br />
investment of $124 million.</p>
<p>There’s more. You see, the World Trade Towers were not the real estate<br />
plum we are led to believe. From an economic standpoint, the trade center<br />
&#8211; subsidized since its inception by the NY Port Authority &#8212; has never<br />
functioned, nor was it intended to function, unprotected in the<br />
rough-and-tumble real estate marketplace. How could Silverstein Group have<br />
been ignorant of this?</p>
<p>The towers required some $200 million in renovations and improvements,<br />
most of which related to removal and replacement of building materials<br />
declared to be health hazards in the years since the towers were built. It<br />
was well-known by the city of New York that the WTC was an asbestos<br />
bombshell. For years, the Port Authority treated the building like an<br />
aging dinosaur, attempting on several occasions to get permits to demolish<br />
the building for liability reasons, but being turned down due the known<br />
asbestos problem. Further, it was well-known the only reason the building<br />
was still standing until 9/11 was because it was too costly to disassemble<br />
the twin towers floor by floor since the Port Authority was prohibited<br />
legally from demolishing the buildings.</p>
<p>The projected cost to disassemble the towers: $15 Billion. Just the<br />
scaffolding for the operation was estimated at $2.4 Billion!</p>
<p>In other words, the Twin Towers were condemned structures. How convenient<br />
that an unexpected “terrorist” attack demolished the buildings completely. </p>
<p>WTC Building 7 was a part of the WTC complex, and covered under the same<br />
insurance policy. This 47-storey steel-framed structure, which was NOT<br />
struck by an aircraft, mysteriously collapsed 8 hours later that same day<br />
into its own footprint at freefall speed — exactly in the manner of the<br />
Twin Towers.</p>
<p>How could this have happened? Mr. Silverstein gave the world the answer<br />
when he slipped up during a PBS television interview a year later, on<br />
9/11/2002:</p>
<p>&#8220;I remember getting a call from the&#8230;er&#8230;fire department commander,<br />
telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the<br />
fire, and I said, &#8216;We&#8217;ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the<br />
smartest thing to do is pull it.&#8217; And they made that decision to pull and<br />
we watched the building collapse.&#8221;</p>
<p>As anyone who knows anything about construction can tell you, “Pull” is<br />
common industry jargon for a controlled demolition.</p>
<p>One thing is for sure, the decision to &#8216;pull&#8217; WTC 7 would have delighted<br />
many people. Especially because it has been reported that thousands of<br />
sensitive files relating to some of the biggest financial scams in history<br />
— including Enron and WorldCom &#8212; were stored in the offices of some of<br />
the building’s tenants:</p>
<p>US Secret Service<br />
NSA<br />
CIA<br />
IRS<br />
BATF<br />
SEC<br />
NAIC Securities<br />
Salomon Smith Barney<br />
American Express Bank International<br />
Standard Chartered Bank<br />
Provident Financial Management<br />
ITT Hartford Insurance Group<br />
Federal Home Loan Bank</p>
<p>The Securities and Exchange Commission has not quantified the number of<br />
active cases in which substantial files were destroyed by the collapse of<br />
WTC 7. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports<br />
estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency&#8217;s major inquiry<br />
into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial<br />
public offerings during the high-tech boom. &#8230;&#8221;Ongoing investigations at<br />
the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their<br />
work is paper-intensive,&#8221; said Max Berger of New York&#8217;s Bernstein Litowitz<br />
Berger &amp; Grossmann. &#8220;This is a disaster for these cases.&#8221;</p>
<p>Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about<br />
WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade<br />
Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center. The bank says that<br />
back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December<br />
2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack. </p>
<p>Inside WTC 7 was the US Secret Service&#8217;s largest field office with more<br />
than 200 employees. &#8220;All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in<br />
all our cases, went down with the building,&#8221; according to US Secret<br />
Service Special Agent David Curran.</p>
<p>What a neat, complete, and fortuitous turn of events was 9/11. </p>
<p>Incidentally, it’s worth noting that one of Lucky Larry’s closest friends<br />
— a person with whom it’s said he speaks almost daily by phone — is none<br />
other than former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
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		<title>by: Jeanette</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>These are similar thoughts that I've had before even seeing Moore's new movie. Mind you, I'm a fan of Moore but that doesn't blind me to the things he does wrong. There remains a prevailing notion that health care, and access to it, is something like Social Darwinism. Those who can get to it are allowed to have it. Survival depends on the "health" of the bank account. This is of course a moral problem that needs to be checked - somehow. We should think about what we want our government to regulate vs. what we want them to nationalize. Although Canada's health care problems are pretty well known, the writer here did not describe that of England's or France's. I live in a town where Conoco Phillips has some of their major offices. A friend of mine is an engineer from England and praises the English health system. When asked to compare it to Canada's he said there is little to compare, other than philosophy. For some reason, the English seem to have less problems in a similar situation.

I would propose that instead of trying to nationalize industries Congress instead takes a firmer hand in regulating them. There is an obscene difference in pay ratio from a CEO to a labor employee. We should begin focusing on THAT fact. If that margin was narrowed significantly we would find much of our health care woes dissipating and would be more favorable to public aid going to pay for health care as it would encompass fewer people. And, as my doctor once pointed out - insurance IS one of the reasons that medical costs went up to begin with.

Remember, regulation and nationalization are two very different choices and considering our experiences with bureaucracy I would prefer clear cut laws or regulations regarding pay scales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are similar thoughts that I&#8217;ve had before even seeing Moore&#8217;s new movie. Mind you, I&#8217;m a fan of Moore but that doesn&#8217;t blind me to the things he does wrong. There remains a prevailing notion that health care, and access to it, is something like Social Darwinism. Those who can get to it are allowed to have it. Survival depends on the &#8220;health&#8221; of the bank account. This is of course a moral problem that needs to be checked - somehow. We should think about what we want our government to regulate vs. what we want them to nationalize. Although Canada&#8217;s health care problems are pretty well known, the writer here did not describe that of England&#8217;s or France&#8217;s. I live in a town where Conoco Phillips has some of their major offices. A friend of mine is an engineer from England and praises the English health system. When asked to compare it to Canada&#8217;s he said there is little to compare, other than philosophy. For some reason, the English seem to have less problems in a similar situation.</p>
<p>I would propose that instead of trying to nationalize industries Congress instead takes a firmer hand in regulating them. There is an obscene difference in pay ratio from a CEO to a labor employee. We should begin focusing on THAT fact. If that margin was narrowed significantly we would find much of our health care woes dissipating and would be more favorable to public aid going to pay for health care as it would encompass fewer people. And, as my doctor once pointed out - insurance IS one of the reasons that medical costs went up to begin with.</p>
<p>Remember, regulation and nationalization are two very different choices and considering our experiences with bureaucracy I would prefer clear cut laws or regulations regarding pay scales.
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